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Cooperation
South magazine interviews Roberto Savio, Director-General, Inter-Press
Service.
Mr.
Savio is also Secretary-General of the Society for International
Development (SID) and Executive Director of the Technological Information
Promotion System (TIPS). As one of today's most experienced development
practitioners, Mr. Savio is well-placed to describe the future prospects
for South-South cooperation. Sam Oglesby, Editor of Cooperation
South, reports.
1.
To give us an introductory overview, what are the most important
issues to be dealt with in developing South-South cooperation?
The
most important overall issue which should be taken into account
is the shift in South-South alignment owing to the effects of what
we term "globalization." Globalization has been rarely touched upon
in UN debates yet it is necessary to recognize and deal with this
phenomenon: the centre of economic weight has shifted to Asia with
an increasing marginalization of Africa. In the South there are
now three players running at different speeds - South-east and East
Asia, Latin America and Africa. And all three of these regions are
trying to escape the realities of globalization through bilateral
North-South agreements.
Within
this framework of flux, it will be necessary to devise and implement
a process which will provide South-South services and transfers
which are as important as those offered through North-South exchanges.
The Special Unit for Technical Cooperation among Developing Countries
(SU/TCDC) can play an important role in giving perspective and guidance
regarding what form these South-South exchanges can take.
There
is another aspect which cannot be overlooked. This is special sense
of identity of the South which is different from the North and which
was given voice in the earlier years of post-colonial independence
through such fora as the Non-Aligned Movement (NAM) and the New
International Economic Order (NIEO). These differences are very
basic and relate to the whole gamut of essential elements which
constitute national, collective and individual life - the view of
society, the function of the family, approaches to economic participation,
traditional perspectives and culture, value systems, to name a few.
This feeling of difference should be developed in a constructive
way aiming at a b, solid self-identity and not as an anti-North
feeling. Agencies such as the UNDP, and in particular SU/TCDC, can
play a facilitating role in this regard.
There
have been various prognostications - both positive and negative
- about the future of development cooperation in its different forms.
Is the picture basically bright? What do you foresee as problem
areas? What contribution can be made by TCDC/ECDC?
The
future of development cooperation is very much tied to the climate
created by the end of the Cold War. With the break-up of the bipolar
alignment which had endured for more than forty years, the South
lost a trump card in the game of international influence. Its ability
to posture and maximize donor resource flows was abruptly diminished
since the South could no longer be a key player in a conflict which
no longer existed. With development aid no longer an imperative,
the South found itself largely irrelevant on both the political
and military levels.. Reinforcing this trend was a world-view which
felt that global solutions should not be sought for any problem
which could be solved locally. For example, national laws were passed
and police forces were strengthened in response to surges in immigration
from the South to the North.
In
the short-term, I do not foresee any increase in official development
assistance (ODA). In fact, a decrease is to be expected. With the
United States cutting back, it can be expected that most other donors
will follow suit and even though Japan may compensate with an ODA
increase, it will not be sufficient to close the gap. And in any
case Japan's ODA is Asia-centered and not really global. It should
be mentioned that this bleak picture has its bright spots with Denmark,
the Netherlands, Norway and Sweden approaching the 1% target.
Spain
is the only country which has recently increased its ODA (to reach
around 0.7%) and the reason is interesting: a dramatic mobilization
of public opinion. This is a hopeful straw in the wind at a time
when we have a crisis of participation in most democracies. There
is a widespread perception that political parties have become instruments
of power and NOT vehicles for participation. They no longer serve
the classic purpose for which they were developed and instead are
seen by public opinion as alien and opportunistic to the needs of
society. Citizens' groups and non-governmental organizations are
stepping in to address the problems of a shattered social structure.
In
this rather gloomy picture, TCDC/ECDC has an important role to play
in helping the countries of the South to work more closely together
to increase national and collective self-reliance as called for
in TCDC's charter, the Buenos Aires Plan of Action (BAPA). If the
South can realize this goal of self-strengthening, North-South relations
will also benefit since dealing with a healthy, stable South is
in the North's interest. The North had, in earlier times, been rather
paranoic about South-South cooperation, but today even conservatives
in the North have been converted.
Much
has been said in recent years about the great opportunities presented
by the end of East-West confrontation and the advent of globalization
and liberalization. Are these trends creating a global framework
conducive to sustainable human development? Are there dangers in
this loose and open international order? How can South-South cooperation
address this complex situation.?
I
have touched on the implications of the end of East-West confrontation
in response to your second question. Let me continue by focusing
more on globalization and liberalization. In many ways we are witnessing
a return to the mentality of a century ago when laissez-faire capitalism
held sway and responsibility for social well-being was not seen
as a major concern for governments.
This
is a déjà-vu situation where only the rich are interested in voting,
where trade unions are in decline, political parties are elite clubs
and social architecture - welfare systems -is being dismantled.
We also need to note the simultaneous impoverishment of the middle
class; the test case of the United States is emblematic of this
trend which is now also rising in Europe. In the last 12 years,
the US middle-class lost 11% each year to poverty. The implications
for development cooperation are complex and not altogether negative.
For one thing, the opportunity for an increase in non-governmental
organizations activities and the involvement of community action
citizen's groups is an area where South-South contacts can play
a major role.
As
a specialist in communications, would you share with us your ideas
about the communications revolution and how these advances in technology
can be harnessed by countries of the South in a ways most advantageous
to their own development requirements?
Much
has been said about the information revolution, but let us note
here two basic features: its rapid expansion - presently worldwide
INTERNET membership is 30 million with a monthly increase of one
million; and the affordability of the new communications technology
which is becoming cheaper and cheaper so that soon its cost will
be negligible. For the first time in world history we will be truly
living in a communications-oriented society whereas previously global
communication were blocked by natural and geographic boundaries
as well as distance. Within the next 20-25 years, even remote villages,
because of the drastic reduction in communications costs, will be
able to be linked up to the global communications network and hopefully
this revolution will return power to the people since the State
will no longer be able to control or curtail communications and
the spread of information. This phenomenon has important implications
for democracy. This also has positive implications for TCDC since
its promotion and expansion will no longer depend exclusively on
a limited focal point network.
I
see three levels of communication which need to be taken into account:
exchanges at the institutional and governmental level; meso-level
interaction taking place between, for example, Chambers of Commerce;
and direct people-to-people contacts. TCDC can be active at all
three levels, especially at the meso-level where it can contribute
added value to the existing information. TCDC can also be instrumental
in helping to create the necessary environment for a cultural of
communications which needs to be nurtured in the South. Presently
only 7% of businesses in the South are PC-equipped compared to nearly
80% in the North.
What
about the role of the United Nations technical agencies vis-à-vis
TCDC? Does the prospect of widespread use of TCDC mean a diminished
place for the United Nations development system in technical cooperation?
The
UN development system, in my view, is currently in a state of crisis.
There is a lack of strategy and conceptualization. Perhaps TCDC
can be the pilot to steer development cooperation out of this confusion.
6.
How can the organizations under your guidance - SIDS, IPS and TIPS
- contribute to the renewal of TCDC as embodied in New Directions
for TCDC which was recently endorsed by the High-level Committee
for TCDC?
SID,
IPS and TIPS are, of course, different programmes, but they have
points of commonality. SIDS, with its network of chapters and over
10,000 members worldwide, is an effective forum for debate, helping
to focus on issues of importance, South-South cooperation being
one of its important concerns. The 1997 SID World Conference to
be held at Tokyo will focus on such issues as gender and cultural
issues in the South which will be debated in detail at national
and chapter levels before the conference.
IPS,
which was founded in 1964, has the primary mission of giving a voice
to the South. In the 1960s the information flow was very unbalanced
with 98% of the news and information coming from the four main Western
news agencies. Now the information flow is more global with the
South a major player. IPS has been instrumental in promoting women
in the field of information and supporting the capacity-building
of journalists from developing country.
TIPS,
as a multi-sectoral information network, has been concentrating
on trade and technology and focuses on South-South and South-North
exchanges. We hope that TIPS and TCDC-INRES will strengthen their
mutual collaboration in the future.
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